In this episode, Frauke sits down with multi-disciplinary artist, writer, designer, and curator Catherine Haley Epstein to talk about her book Nose Dive, a book which explores the intersection of creativity with the science and anthropology of scent.

This is a thought-provoking discussion about how we think and talk about scent.

Catherine shares her journey to writing the book, which reveals how important it is to stay true to what you believe in.

She shares what her sense of smell means to her, how it makes her feel, and explains, in her opinion, what people get wrong about this underappreciated sense.

This is a fun conversation that includes a golden Buddha statue, aliens, and, yes, printer exhaust.

Truly an episode not to be missed!